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Killing Rushdie is easier than defending Muhammad! [Video]

On Friday, August 12th, a 24 year old Lebanese-American Muslim named Hadi Matar jumped to the stage where Salman Rushdie was speaking on the topic of why the USA is a “safe-Haven” for persecuted writers and artists, and stabbed him around 10 times in his neck, eye, arm and side.Matar had sympathies with the Shiite Muslims of Iran and knew that to kill Rushdie would reward him possibly $3 million due to a ‘Fatwa’ issued by the late Ayatollah Khomeini demanding his death with the reward awarded by the Iranian regime itself because of Rushdie’s 1988 book entitled ‘Satanic Verses’, which was not only critical of the prophet Muhammad, but of the Iranian regime as well.Rushdie will most likely survive Friday’s attack, though possibly without an eye and severely maimed.When he wrote Satanic Verses, a fictitious realistic book about the alienation and problems of identity for Indian Muslims living in the UK, there were many who vilified him, including Shabbir Akhtar, a Muslim Cambridge philosophy graduate who called for “a negotiated compromise” which “would protect Muslim sensibilities against gratuitous provocation”. Others in the UK supported him, such as the labour MP Keith Vaz who wanted the book banned, and the Conservative MP Norman Tebbit who thought it unwise for the author to publish such a book.But others came to his support, such as journalist and author Andy McSmith, who said, “We are witnessing, I fear, the birth of a new and dangerously illiberal ‘liberal’ orthodoxy designed to accommodate Dr Akhtar and his fundamentalist friends.” (Andy McSmith 2011, page 16)Journalist Christopher Hitchens staunchly defended Rushdie and his book and urged critics to condemn the violence of the fatwa instead of blaming the novel or the author, writing, “The fatwa was the opening shot in a cultural war on freedom” (Christopher Hitchens. Assassins of the Mind. Vanity Fair, February 2009) Some Muslim barristers tried to get the book banned on the grounds of blasphemy, but the Home Office responded that it would not allow further blasphemy prosecutions, declaring just “how inappropriate our legal mechanisms are for dealing with matters of faith and individual belief … the strength of their own belief is the best armour against mockers and blasphemers”.M. D. Fletcher (author of “Reading Rushdie: Perspectives on the Fiction of Salman Rushdie) explains the irony surrounding the background of Satanic Verses when he wrote, “It is perhaps a relevant irony that some of the major expressions of hostility toward Rushdie came from those about whom and (in some sense) for whom he wrote. The manifestations of the controversy in Britain embodied an anger arising in part from the frustrations of the migrant experience and generally reflected failures of multicultural integration, both significant Rushdie themes. Clearly, Rushdie’s interests centrally include explorations of how migration heightens one’s awareness that perceptions of reality are relative and fragile, and of the nature of religious faith and revelation, not to mention the political manipulation of religion. Rushdie’s own assumptions about the importance of literature parallel the literal value accorded the written word in Islamic tradition to some degree. But Rushdie seems to have assumed that diverse communities and cultures share some degree of common moral ground on the basis of which dialogue can be pieced together, and it is perhaps for this reason that he underestimated the implacable nature of the hostility evoked by The Satanic Verses, even though a major theme of that novel is the dangerous nature of closed, absolutist belief systems.” (M. D. Fletcher (1994). Reading Rushdie: Perspectives on the Fiction of Salman Rushdie. Rodopi B.V, Amsterdam.)Iwan McEwan, however, I think says it best when he remarked, “people who are utterly secure in their God should be above taking physical revenge when offended. Perhaps the book-burners and placard-wavers were, paradoxically, troubled by the first gremlins of doubt.”This is probably why so many Muslims have supported the Fatwa against Salman Rushdie, and are rejoicing that he was attacked on Friday. They know deep down that their prophet cannot be defended historically, nor can he be supported as a model for mankind today or any day. Thus, their only recourse is to attempt to destroy anyone who dares to question him, or mock him, as Rushdie has done in his book, proving that their prophet cannot really be defended by word or deed but only with violence against those who dare to question him.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,420) Music: “Sweet Sunset” by Musicifiles, from filmmusic-io

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S.C.#6: Today’s Qur’an has 1000’s of CORRUPTIONS! [Video]

In this last segment from Speaker’s Corner Jay and Hatun confront the problems with the preservation of the Qur’an.They begin by pointing out that after Uthman burned all the Qur’ans which didn’t agree with his final compilation, he had 5 copies of his ‘Quraishi’ Qur’an sent to 5 cities as standards for all subsequent Qur’ans.Yet, other Qur’ans began to appear in Syria and Iraq which didn’t agree with Uthman’s rescension, suggesting that his attempt at standardization didn’t succeed very well.Ubay in Ka’b’s Qur’an became popular in Damascus, Syria, which had 116 Surahs (the Qur’an today only has 114). Ibn Masu’d’s Qur’an became popular in Kufa, Iraq, and it only had 111 Surahs, while a third Qur’an which was different, written by Ibn Musa, became popular in Basra, Iraq, proving that standardization didn’t work, and Allah was not able to protect his word (see Surah 15:9).Later Al Hajjaj had the Qur’an changed 11 times in around 705 AD.But, in the 8th century there were many more changes imposed on the Qur’an, and these were in the form of 7 Qira’at (readings) chosen in 936 by Ibn Mujahid, followed by 14 subsequent writings (Riwayat) created by the students of the Qira’at compilers, but only chosen in 1194 by al-Shatabi.In 1429 another 9 Qira’ats and Riwayats were chosen by Al Jazari, which means it took them a full 800 years to finally choose the 30 Qira’ats which are the official readings used all over the Muslim world today.Muslims say that these don’t change the meaning of the verses, yet Hatun gave the example of Surah 17:102 which in Hafs version says, “You have surely known”, while in the Nafi version it says, “I have surely known”, confusing whether it was Moses or the Pharoah who was the subject of this verse.When comparing the two most popular Qira’ats in the Muslim world today, the Hafs vs the Warsh, we can find between 1,300 – 5,000 differences when comparing one with the other!What’s more, while Christians have 5,800 Greek manuscripts of their New Testament, along with 10,000 Latin Vulgates, and 9,000 other manuscripts from 11 different languages, which gives us a total of over 24,000 manuscripts to compare between, the Muslims only have 6 early manuscripts of the Qur’an. Yet, none of the 6 are from the 7th century, nor are they complete, nor do they correspond with the other 5 manuscripts or with the Qur’an we are using today.Dr Dan Brubaker, when looking at these 6 manuscripts, was able to find over 4,000 changes to letters, words, and phrases between them proving that there has been a wholesale history of deletions, accretions, and corruptions of the Qur’anic text in the past few hundred years.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,370) Music: “Inspiring Teaser” by Rafael-Krux, from filmmusic-io

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S.C.#5: All the earliest Qur’ans have disappeared! [Video]

Hatun and Jay now move to a critique of the Qur’an’s preservation in the early centuries of its origins, specifically, in this case, the mid 7th century.They referred to the Traditional narrative on the Qur’an’s compilation, that derived from the account compiled by al Bukhari, volume 6, hadith numbers 509 – 510.Al Bukhari was clear that there simply was no written or codified Qur’an at the time of Muhammad’s death in 632 AD.A crisis was subsequently caused when 70 of the companions of the prophet who had memorized the Qur’an died at the battle of Yamama, which created a dilemma for Abu Bakr, because if all those who had memorized it died, the Qur’an would then die with them.So Abu Bakr had Zaid ibn Thabit, the secretary of Muhammad collect what he could of the Qur’an, and have it compiled into its first written form.Thabit did this by collecting what he could from stones, bark, palm fronds and from the memory of those who had memorized the text.This compilation was then given to Hafsa, one of the wives of Muhammad, who put it under her bed for safe-keeping.About 20 years later, during the reign of Uthman, there was another battle, this time against the Azerbaijanis in the north. After the battle some Medinan Muslims went to a mosque to pray and heard Qur’anic verses which were different from that which they were using. Udaifah, the leader of the Medinans quickly returned home to demand Uthman correct this problem by commissioning another Qur’an which would be written in the ‘Quraishi dialect’.Uthman complied immediately and ordered Zaid ibn Thabit to take Hafsahs earlier copy and rewrite it, but this time in the Quraishi dialect.Some of you may see a problem at this point right away… In the 7th century the Arabic only had 16 consonantal letters which were devoid of any of the 5 dots or 3 vowels which our current Arabic uses today. Those would finally be created about a century later. So, how could someone have written the Arabic Qur’an in a specific “Quraishi” dialect without using those 5 dots or the 3 vowels? Obviously Bukhari, when he wrote this in the 9th century didn’t take that into consideration.Nonetheless, once Thabit had the Qur’an finished Uthman had 5 copies of it sent to 5 cities (Mecca, Medina, Basra, Kufa, and Damascus) to be the standard for all future Qur’ans, and he then took all of the remaining Qur’ans which differed with his official text and had them burned!So, where are those 5 original Qur’ans sent to the 5 cities? Not one of them exists today.What’s more, according to the Traditions, one of the favourite companions of Muhammad, Ubay ibn Ka’b, who lived in Damascus wrote his own Qur’an which had 116 Surahs, which is 2 more than the Qur’an we are using today.Another of his companions, Ibn Masu’d, from Kufa (in present day Iraq) wrote his own Qur’an, which had 111 Surahs, which is 3 fewer than our present Qur’an.Arther Jeffery, in the last century did a study of what the Traditions said concerning these ‘Metropolitan codices’ of the Qur’an and was able to tabulate over 15,000 differences between them.So, it is obvious that even in the 7th century, there were many problems with the Qur’an’s preservation, proving that we can not hope to find the original text of the Qur’an due to these many changes and manipulations.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,320) Music: “Inspiring Teaser” by Rafael-Krux, from filmmusic-io

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S.C.#4: Jesus was SINLESS, yet Muhammad was SINFUL! [Video]

We now move to the area where we ask who is the more righteous, Jesus or Muhammad?This is an easy comparison, because the two contrast each other so dynamically in this area.It is obvious that Jesus in the Bible is righteous and without sin (see Isaiah 53:9; Luke 1:35; John 19:4; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 4:15; 1 Peter 1:18-19, 2:22; and 1 John 3:5)What’s surprising is that in the Qur’an he is referred to as the ‘Righteous one” by the angel Gabriel to Mary (Surah 19:19), proving that the writer of the Qur’an considered him sinless.This idea of sinless-ness, however, cannot be applied to Muhammad. To begin with Muhammad is not even referred to at all in the Bible, while in the Qur’an it is obvious that he sinned, despite what Muslims constantly claim.You need only look at Surah 48:1-2 where Muhammad is told to ask for forgiveness for the sins he committed before he was a prophet, as well as those sins which he would yet commit after he became a prophet. Thus, his whole life was full of sins.This is also supported by his biography, where he repeatedly killed people, married more women than what was prescribed in the Qur’an (i.e. a limit of 4 in Surah 4:3, whereas he had 12 wives), and elevated himself above everyone else around him (see especially Surah 33).Hatun and Jay then referred to the problem of salvation and noted that the Qur’an stipulates that in order to have an assurance of salvation, Muslims must participate in Jihad, and if they were to die or have others killed during jihad, their reward will be in paradise, and all of this supported and practiced by a man who Muslims believe is the model for all of mankind.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,280) Music: “Inspiring Teaser” by Rafael-Krux, from filmmusic-io

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S.C.#3: JESUS FORGAVE, while MUHAMMAD KILLED! [Video]

Hatun and Jay gave another comparison from the Ladder at Speaker’s Corner on Sunday the 31st of July. They looked at how Jesus and Muhammad dealt with those who opposed them.To begin a fellow in the crowd suggested that we use the name ‘Isa’ for Jesus, and Jay responded that Isa is not the correct Arabic name for Jesus, that the true Arabic name is “Jesuah’, which is not found in the Qur’an at all!The same fellow then suggested that Muhammad was able to attract even young girls, like Aishah, his bride of 6 years old, but whom Muhammad waited to consummate the marriage until she was 9 and he was 53. Jay asked whether that example of Muhammad was relevant for today, and there was no one who agreed.Jay then moved to the problem concerning what Jesus and Muhammad did to those who confronted them and disagreed with them? He used the example of Asma bin Marwan, who wrote poetic verse against Muhammad.He asked if there was anyone who would seek retribution for him, and one of his disciples, Umair, went that night, and while Asma bint Marwan was suckling her youngest of her 6 children, he plunged his sword into her chest and killed her. The next morning he came and told Muhammad what he had done, and Muhammad responded by saying, “Bless you for what you have done for your prophet.”To remind people of Muhammad’s reaction to those who mocked him Hatun wears a T-shirt to Speaker’s Corner with a young Muhammad holding a sword dripping with blood from the many heads which lay around his feet, while Muhammad points to a pen and says, “I’m so emotionally offended by this bigot for drawing me”, a perfect example of what they were talking about from the ladder!So, what about Jesus, what did he do to those who offended him? He not only pardoned them, but wouldn’t even permit those who tried to defend him from doing so.In the Garden of Gethsemane, when the Jewish guards came to arrest him, Peter, his disciple took out his blade and cut off the ear of one of the servants who was there.Jesus, took the ear and re-attached it, and then turning to Peter he said, “Put away your sword, for he who lives by the sword, will die by the sword” (Matthew 26:52).When compared to the violence and hatred of Muhammad, Jesus once again comes out on top, and proves just how relevant he is for then and now, and for there and here. He truly is the man for all time and for evryone!© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,250) Music: “Inspiring Teaser” by Rafael-Krux, from filmmusic-io

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S.C.#2: Jesus’ Peace vs Muhammad’s Violence! [Video]

Hatun and Jay move on to the problem of violence and peace between Muhammad and Jesus.They began by noting that while Jesus forgave the adulteress (John 8:7), Muhammad had adulteresses whipped and stoned (see Surah 24:2, the verse on Rajam, which demanded stoning at the time of Muhammad, but has subsequently been changed to 100 lashes, due to its overt violence).Jay asked if Jesus ever killed anyone, and Abdul from the crowd said that in the Old Testament Jesus killed many and was very violent.Jay responded that Jesus referred to this in Matthew chapter 5, where in verse 17 he said that he did not come to abrogate the Old Testament law, but he had come to fulfill it, and then went on to give 6 applications of what he meant.Amongst those 6 he referred to the Old Testament injunction of taking “an eye for an eye” (vs 38), but now Christians were to “turn the other cheek”.In verse 43 Jesus noted that in the Old law a Jew could love his neighbor, but hate his enemy, whereas Jesus now says (vs 44) that we were to LOVE OUR ENEMIES!So much so that we weren’t even permitted to defend our Lord using violence. Jay pointed to Matthew 26:52 where Jesus scolded his disciple Peter who had cut off an ear of a servant trying to arrest him, telling him to “put away his sword, for he who lives by the sword will die by the sword”.Yet, Abdul asked, what about the passage where Jesus said that he had not come to bring peace, but a sword (Matthew 10:34)?Jay responded by asking him to look at the very next verse (vs.35), where it clearly says that Jesus would set sons against their fathers and daughters against their mothers, so that the sword would be used against the disciples themselves, and often by their very own families.To understand the context of this injunction, Jay suggested that we look at the whole of Matthew chapter 10, which concerned the commissioning of the 12 disciples, whom Jesus was sending out as “lamb before wolves” (vs 16).Jesus said that his disciples would be hated (vs.22), persecuted (vs.23), jailed (vs.19), flogged (vs.17), and even killed (vs.21) for his name’s sake.What’s more, if any of his disciples was not willing to take up his cross for Jesus, than they were not worthy to be called his disciples (vs.38).So, the sword and the violence Jesus was referring to was the sword and violence which will come against us, because we go in His name.Hatun then went to Muhammad to see how he compared to Jesus, and reminded the crowd of what he did in Medina, where he had come as a guest. Yet, within 2 years he had taken it over and stipulated that he was now the arbiter between Man and God for all of those living in Medina.The Jews refused to accept his title, so Muhammad first had them expelled from Medina (the Banu Qaynuqa and Banu Nadir familes), and then had all 800 men of the Banu Quraiza family beheaded in one afternoon, and took their women as concubines for his men, and the children as their slaves.Jay applied these actions by Muhammad in a modern setting of London, and asked if we were to refuse to support a Muslim mayor as an arbiter between man and god, would we be likewise beheaded today as Muhammad did in 627 AD, since he is the model for all Muslims everywhere and for all time?With these kinds of examples it is easy to see that when we do a comparison between Muhammad and Jesus, it is Jesus who turns out to be the man of peace, while Muhammad is certainly the man of violence.What’s more, because of his violence, he is simply not relevant for today, or any day, and not for me, or you, or anyone, not here, or anywhere.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,210) Music: “Inspiring Teaser” by Rafael-Krux, from filmmusic-io

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Hatun & Jay @ Speaker’s Corner “Jesus vs Muhammad #1” [Video]

Having heard that Jay Smith was coming to London, Hatun Tash asked him to come on down to Speaker’s Corner and get up on the Ladder on Sunday, July 31, 2022 so that the two of them could do a comparison of Jesus vs Muhammad for the crowd there.Whenever Jay is in town he likes to join Hatun, as she rarely gets on a ladder except when he comes down, as working from the ladder helps them get their material heard to a larger crowd, which can then be uploaded on YouTube.Due to some technical problems with our own camera audio, Hatun asked “StreetMic LiveStream” if we could use his copy of our talk for this video, which he willingly agreed, providing that we credited him. You will notice that some of the video is somewhat distorted (our apologies).Hatun and Jay wanted to do a list of comparisons which included how Jesus and Muhammad were born.For instance, Jesus was born within the normal 9 months, but quite miraculously, as his mother Mary was a virgin (see Matthew 1:18-25; and Surah 19:20).Muhammad, however, took a rather longer period, in fact, as Hatun reminded us, a full 4 years before he was ready to come out (Ibn Hisham pp. 68-69).They then noted that while Jesus served God even as child (see Luke 2:39-52, and Surah 3:46), and was able to read the Bible early on (see Luke 2:41-52), Muhammad was not only an idolater in his formative years (see al Bukhari 6:452), but he was illiterate for his whole life as well (see Surah 7:157).Hatun and Jay went from that subject to a comparison of the two men’s living environments. They noted that Jesus always lived in poverty and depended on donation (see Luke 4:16-21 and 8:1-3), while Muhammad took a full 20% of all the booty the Muslims garnered for just himself (see Ibn Hisham p.281).Concerning miracles, both the Bible and the Qur’an refer to many miracles which Jesus performed (see Mark 3:9-10; and Surah 3:49). He was able to give sight to the blind (see Surah 18:35-43 and 3:49), make the lame walk (see Matthew 9:2-8), and heal withered hands (Matthew 12:10-13).In comparison, the Qur’an is very clear that Muhammad was incapable of doing any miracles (see Surah 29:50). What’s more, in contrast to Jesus he made the seeing go blind and others who walked lame (see al Bukhari 8:520), and then cut off the hands of anyone who was caught stealing, even an egg (see Al Bukhari 8:the last 3 verses).With everyone of these comparisons, it was obvious on the day that Jesus was quite a bit superior to Muhammad.But that’s not all, there are more comparisons yet to come…so ‘hold this space’!Credits: livestream footage from “StreetMic LiveStream”© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,183) Music: “Inspiring Teaser” by Rafael-Krux, from filmmusic-io

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Lloyd#16: Lying (Hiyal) is Obligatory for Muslims! [Video]

Go here to get Lloyd’s material: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiyIXknJOnGXmnYB3UrXaHQ/community?lb=Ugkx5K9TZVCqaWNfHz-6RrGfd1mRmpohppszLying is Obligatory for all Muslims, according to the ‘Reliance of the Traveller’.Most of us have heard of ‘Taqiya’ (which is also lying), but the Reliance of the Traveller uses the word ‘Hiyal’ which is a stronger term.According to Reliance of the Traveller, book R, 8.0 Lying is obligatory on all Muslims.Book R, 2.2 says that slandering people you dislike is permitted.Book R, 8.2 (page 744 in the book, or pg. 762 in the PDF) lying is good as it brings about peace whenever there is a disagreement.There are 3 areas where lying is permitted: 1) in the time of war, 2) in settling a disagreement (such as lying in an argument), and 3) lying to your spouse.Lying is particularly supported when the Muslim needs to achieve an objective, especially when it benefits Islam.Taqiyya is used in war as a tactical deceit, and to spread Islam, according to Lloyd.Book R, 8.3 the word Tawriya is used to describe someone who is using a misleading impression.Lying is encouraged when it is better to do so in a case where to tell the truth would bring about bad.In the book ‘Ihya Ulum al Din’, written by Al Ghazzali, mentions that false speaking is at times compulsory. Ghazzali says, “False Speaking (lying), is better than speaking the truth”.He stipulates 3 times when lying is obligatory:1) To bring about a compromise between two disputing parties2) In the context of war3) Between a wife and a husband.He goes on to say that lying is also permissible when it benefits a Muslim, or removes some form of harm (such as doubt), or to save his honor.The word which is used for lying in the Reliance of the Traveller is “Hiyal”, which is defined as a form of “Legalistic Trickery”. It is also known as contortion (i.e. twisting the meaning), or contrivance (i.e. scheming), or expedience (i.e. getting an advantage), or a device (i.e. to trick someone), or subterfuge.Hiyal, in the context of commerce allows someone to break the law or circumvent it if need be, even to the point of deceiving the customer, so that the Muslim can win a contract.Adab al-djadal is another word which is used for debating, where the intent is not to define truth, but to say anything in order to convince your opponent, or the audience, and thus win the debate. One can even trick the other in order to win the debate.Da’wah, which we have been told is ‘evangelism’ or ‘to invite’ is considered in the Reliance of the Traveller as a form of propaganda, to pretend, in order to bring people to Islam.“Eristic Refutation” is a form of disputation, or even a form of haggling, which is used in Islam as a means to win an argument, and can be an end in itself.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(67,040) Music: “Epic Heroic Conquest” by Musiclfiles, from filmmusic-io

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Ep.4: Qur’anic Preservation is completely in Tatters! [Video]

The persistent claim by Muslims everywhere is that the Qur’an has been preserved perfectly since the time that it was revealed to Muhammad 1400 years ago. Well known Muslim scholars like Dr Yasir Qadhi and Dr Shabir Ally have said numerous times that “Not one word or even one letter has been changed since 652 AD”!They have to say this because the Qur’an claims it:Surah 15:9 says that Allah will preserve his Qur’an from any change, which, according to Muslims means that even the words and letters are guarded.Surah 10:15 says that no one can change the Qur’an, not even Muhammad.Surah 18:27 echoes this claim, stipulating that it is not possible for even one person to change Allah’s word.But the textual history of the Qur’an tells us a completely different story, proving that the Qur’an has been changed by men many times over the past 1400 years.When we read the Hadith, according to Sahih Al-Bukhari 6:509-510, the standard work on how the Qur’an was even compiled, we find that he clearly admits that there were changes between the first Qur’an commissioned by Abu Bakr in 632 AD and the second Qur’an commissioned 20 years later by Uthman in 652 AD, so much so that Uthman demanded that Zaid ibn Thabit, the compiler of both Qur’ans, rewrite it during his reign and use only the Quraishi dialect to do so, suggesting that the first rendition didn’t use this dialect.What’s more, Uthman then had every other Qur’an which disagreed with this final copy be burned so that there would not be any differing copies.He then sent a copy of this official Quraishi Qur’an to 5 cities (Medina, Mecca, Basra, Kufa and Damascus) so that no more differing Qur’ans could be written, suggesting that a standard Qur’an was a real problem even in the 7th century!Subsequently, we are told in the Islamic Traditions that a Qur’an written by Ubay ibn Ka’b in Damascus (Syria) in the later part of the 7th century had 116 Surahs, which is 2 more Surahs than that of the original compiled by Zaid ibn Thabit, while another Qur’an was written by Ibn Masu’d in Kufa (Iraq) which had only 110 Surahs, a good 4 Surahs fewer than Zaid ibn Thabit’s.But it gets even worse. In the 8th – 10th centuries many more differing Qur’ans were created (possibly as many as 700 according to the Harvard scholar Dr Shady Nasser), with the author of each Qur’an applying their name to their renditions. These were then memorized by people in their respective geographic centres, a practice which has continued right up to the present day.This became such a problem in the early years that Ibn Mujahid was commissioned by the Caliph in 936 AD to choose 7 Qira’at Qur’ans (i.e. different readings of the Qur’an).In 1194 AD al Shatibi was commissioned to choose another 14 Riwayats (i.e. a further 2 readings for each of the original 7) which means the Muslims now had 21 differing Qur’ans by the end of the 12th century, a good 560 years after Muhammad.In 1429 AD al Jazari was commissioned to choose 3 more Qira’ats and another 6 Riwayats to bring the total number of different Qur’ans to 30, almost 800 years after Muhammad!This became a real dilemma in the 20th century.With 30 differing “official” Qur’ans containing over 93,000 differences between them, there was no way that schools in Cairo could have standardized tests on the Qur’an, so they had Muhammad al Husseini al Haddad, a scholar from the famed Al Azhar university, choose just one, the Hafs text, a Qur’an which was written by a man named Hafs in Kufa, Iraq, in 796 AD, around 144 years after Muhammad died, yet who lived hundreds of miles away from Medina.This Hafs text was then commissioned by King Fahd in Saudi Arabia as the official text for the whole Muslim world in 1985; yet, it differs from the 2nd most popular Qur’an, the Warsh Qur’an, in 5,000 different places.This all goes to show that the Qur’an has changed numerous times over the past 1400 years, so that no longer can Muslims claim it was “perfectly preserved”, and no longer can we trust the claims for the Qur’an itself when it makes that same claim. Truly the ‘Standard Islamic Narrative’ concerning the preservation of the Qur’an is, as Dr Yasir Qadhi, a scholar on the Qur’an said in 2020, “full of holes”. In fact, the entire narrative of a “perfectly preserved Qur’an” with not one word or letter changed, is in tatters, proving that Allah has not done a very good job of preserving his word at all!© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(66,930) Music: “Feeling the Caribbean Sun” by Horst Hoffman, from filmmusic-io

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Lloyd#15: Muslims can KILL 2 kinds of PEOPLE! [Video]

According to the ‘Reliance of the Traveler’ Homicide, or murdering someone is perfectly legal, though there are certain criteria for who exactly you are permitted to kill. According to this manual, as well as the Hedaya Manual 2 kinds of people can be killed.1) APOSTATES: In Book 01.1 (pg.583, or PDF pg.601), and in 08.0 it stipulates that you cannot shed the blood of a believing Muslim, but if they become an apostate and abandon Islam, then they are permitted to be killed.Retaliation, better known in the ‘Reliance of the Traveler’ as “justifiable homicide” is in fact obligatory.And the reason someone can be killed? According to the Hedaya manual (for the Shafi’i school) it can be simply because the person sins against Allah. There is no punishment for those who do the killing, regardless of whether the believer has first asked the non-believer to convert or not.The apostate who is being killed is given 3 days to repent; yet, if they refuse, then, providing they had passed puberty according to Book 08.1 – 08.2, they must be killed, because they deserve to die.Killing of an apostate is also found in the Qur’an, in Surah 4:89.2) HONOR KILLING: In the ‘Reliance of the Traveler’ book 02.0 we find support for the killing of any child or family member who brings dishonor to the family. This is also supported in the Qur’an is Surah 18:74 where a dishonorable child is killed which is explained in verses 80-81 that Allah ordained it so that the parents could have another righteous child instead.So, it is clear that Shariah not only allows but even enjoins Muslims to kill both apostates and those who have brought dishonor to a family.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(66,840) Music: “Feeling the Caribbean Sun” by Horst Hoffman, from filmmusic-io

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Ep.3: See Muslims LIE when faced with NO Early Qur’ans! [Video]

Muslims have always claimed that, unlike the Bible, Islam is the only religion which can trace its scripture, the Qur’an, back to its original text, which means that they have manuscript evidence for the original Qur’an which was compiled by the Caliph Uthman, in 652 AD.The only problem is that no one has bothered to confront them or ask for evidence for these claims publicly, allowing them to repeat them ad-nausea, knowing they won’t have to provide any support. This needs to stop!So, back in 2019, while Hatun Tash and I were on the ladder at Speaker’s Corner introducing Dr Brubaker’s new book on the changes to the earliest Qur’anic text, who should show up but Mansur Ahmed, one of the principle writers for the Islamic Awareness web site which houses the largest collection of early Qur’anic manuscripts. Without being invited, he put his ladder next to ours in an attempt to try and shut us down.He began by claiming that there were no problems with Dr Brubaker’s findings, as they only represented ‘manuscript variants’, and then he stated that the Qur’an was the only revelation in history which could prove its complete preservation because Muslims had manuscript evidence that could be traced both orally and textually to the time of its origins, thus actual manuscript texts from the time of the Prophet Muhammad, though he quickly changed it to the time of Uthman in 652 AD (a difference of 20 years).I couldn’t let this go, so (as you will see in the clip we have included into this episode), I quickly turned and asked him where this amazing Uthmanic textual manuscript was located, and what was it called?He didn’t answer, but tried to move the attention to others in the crowd. So I then asked him if not the time of Uthman, was there any manuscript of the Qur’an in the 7th century, the century it was supposed to have been compiled?When pressed on this, he retorted that they had 96% of the text of the Qur’an within the first Islamic century, which goes from 622 AD – 719 AD.So I asked what Qur’anic manuscript was he referring to within this first century (I added 2 years, putting it to 721 AD)? It was obvious that he didn’t want to name any single manuscript at all, because he knew that the earliest 6 manuscripts (The Topkapi, Sammarkand, Ma’il, Petropolitanus, Husseini and the Sa’ana mss) were all from the 8th – 9th centuries, and none were complete. In fact, they didn’t even agree with each other, nor completely with the Qur’an we have today.I again queried him for proof of a complete Qur’anic text which existed before 721 AD, and he repeated that they now had 96% of the Qur’an from before that date, which I found incredulous!But where was this amazing 96% Qur’an?It wasn’t until I went to check his Islamic Awareness Website the next day that I understood where he got the 96% figure from. It had nothing to do with 1 Qur’an at all, but a multiplicity of Cumulative Surahs which his team had collected and tabulated, which, when compiled together made up 96% of the Qur’an from, they said, before 719 AD.Yet, this would be nearly 100 years after Muhammad died (632 AD)! Lost in their response was any evidence of a complete Qur’an from the time of Uthman, with only 96% existing up to almost 100 years after Muhammad!So, how many different manuscripts were needed to reach the 96% figure? A whopping 63, almost all small fragments!And how large were they? Most were just a few verses! I was curious to find out how he was so sure that they all dated before 719 AD, so I got my team in London to research all 63 fragments, and guess what they found!Of the 63 manuscript fragments forwarded by the Islamic Awareness website which they claimed were ALL dated before 719 AD:-20 were tentatively dated with disagreements between scholars, which means there was no conclusion concerning any of them.-9 were definitely dated AFTER 719 AD, some of which were the largest in the collection. So, they shouldn’t even be in the list.-34 (in other words, over half of them) no one had researched yet, so there was no way of knowing their dates; suggesting it was pure speculation by the Muslims!Consequently, very few of the 63 fragments they claimed were from before 719 AD (almost 100 years after Muhammad), were really valid, since all of them were either later, or tentatively dated, or had not been researched yet.So, what can we conclude?It is clear that there are no complete Qur’ans for the first 100 years after Muhammad. While, Muslims have collected 63 fragments of the Qur’an to make up 96% by 719AD, almost all of them appear to be fraudulent. What’s more, they have not studied any of them to know if the 63 fragments even agreed with the current 1924 ‘Hafs’ text, proving that when Muslims are desperate they will lie in order to support their claims for the Qur’an’s preservation.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(66,650) Music: “Feeling the Caribbean Sun” by Horst Hoffman, from filmmusic-io

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Lloyd#14: Islam is a Political Ideology, not just a religion! [Video]

For Lloyd’s complete archives, go here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiyIXknJOnGXmnYB3UrXaHQ/community?lb=UgkxzjLOQlFjElsEXyuW-XrsAnXW9g70paltIn this episode, Lloyd helps us understand that Islam is not necessarily a religion as we in the West define it (i.e. man in relationship with God), but a political system with the intent of completely subjugating its subjects, as well as those who are not adherents of Islam at all.Shariah Law (plural = ‘Shara’i), he maintains is a “clearly defined way”, with Muhammad as the model for the rules and regulations which are required for the believers to follow.Lloyd continues that there are 2 aspects of Shariah regulations:1) Ibadat = the duty or obedience a believer has to Allah, which is worked out in the 5 ‘pillars of Islam’.2) Mu’amalat = the duty of human relations.These duties of the believer are carried out in complete submission to Allah, much as a slave to his master, so that Islam amalgamates the moral, civil and ceremonial law together as one entity.Salvation, according to Lloyd, then comes through following these rules which are laid out in Shariah.The Deen (i.e. the practices) is a sociopolitical system used to compete against and replace any other political system, which today would be the West. This is because Muslims perceive that Islam is a superior political system created by Allah himself, and thus naturally should supersede any other system in existence, because they are merely made by men.Lloyd points to the 4 meanings of Deen:1) Subjugation and Dominance, which allows force to be used in its implementation if need be.2) Obedience and Bondage of others, especially those who are not Muslims.3) Rules and Regulations, which are the doctrines of Islam4) Rewards and Payments, which one can receive in this life.So the Deen of Islam is a political System, or ideology, and not necessarily a religion.Yet, we in the West are completely unaware of this aspect of Islam as we assume it is just another religion like our own. To show just how much it is a political system, Lloyd looks at the 12 criteria afforded by Muslims which make up their Deen, in order of importance: 1) Ownership, 2) Government, 3) Administration, 4) Legislative Authority, 5) Subordination 6) Dominance, 7) Doctrine, 8) Ideology, 9) Tradition, 10) Religion, 11) Justice, and 12) Accountability. Note that religion is way down in 10th place, and the other criteria which we would categorize as important to religion, doctrine and ideology, are in 7th and 8th place. This suggests that religion as we know it is not that important to Islam, which considers the more political criteria a lot more important, proving it really is a political system, and the quicker we understand it as such, the easier it will be for us to understand it and confront it.© Pfander Centre for Apologetics – US, 2022(66,540) Music: “Epic Heroic Conquest” by Musiclfiles, from filmmusic-io